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Suggestions to make games for ladies.

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Hey,


I am thinking about making some short games for ladies.

It will be rated M or A depending on what you prefer

and which thing you like.


I have little experiences in game making, but yeah.


I am good at drawing both genders.

But since it's a game for ladies.

I though maybe a undress game with different males characters.

Or maybe something more like a woman discover a 18+ magazine

made for here.


And what else..


Maybe a dating sim game?


But I am not really in depth with the development part of this..

So yeah. Something very simple and naughty for the ladies.


I will try to make decent drawings for that matter.


Here is what I can draw.

iu_1137349_13444152.png


You are all free to give me ideas and hope I will be able to reach your expectations.


Thank you, ZG.


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2023-12-29 23:15:21


you will have better results searching for the term otome if want examples of dating sims for women. companies like papergames and cheritz make games targeting female audiences. you can look up their portfolio, try their games and see what you can learn and implement from them.


for dress-up, i think you can study more about fashion, experiment with it to broaden your aesthetic sense. if you can render materials it will also help alot as materials is part of what makes a costume. if you prefer to go for flat colors, then i feel pattern design is crucial. having patterns can spice up the aesthetic appeal and you can have more variety with the same base costume.

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 11:12:17


You’re approaching this with the wrong philosophy.


If there are games “for girls”, there must be games “for boys”, which would mean there are games girls “shouldn’t play”. If you ask women what they like to play, their answers are going to vary really wildly, and include some games that are normally marketed to guys! And this applies to games normally marketed to girls, too: I could see your idea for a hentai game with male characters being really appealing to queer men as well!


Make the game you want to make, not what you think is going to attract hot singles to your area. If you put a lot of love in, others will love it too, and you’ll be surprised who turns up to play your game.


Then, once you’ve got your concept, you can do market research and ask the gals in your life what appeals to them in the games they like. What seems to be the case a lot of the time is that appealing character personalities and interactions help draw them in, but that’s not the only thing. (If you’re making online multiplayer, a big part of it will also be the ability to report people for being toxic, because, you know, assholes will tend to target the woman in their lobby.)


Someone please help me revive my clubs

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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 13:28:10


At 1/2/24 11:12 AM, Thetageist wrote: You’re approaching this with the wrong philosophy.

If there are games “for girls”, there must be games “for boys”, which would mean there are games girls “shouldn’t play”. If you ask women what they like to play, their answers are going to vary really wildly, and include some games that are normally marketed to guys! And this applies to games normally marketed to girls, too: I could see your idea for a hentai game with male characters being really appealing to queer men as well!

Make the game you want to make, not what you think is going to attract hot singles to your area. If you put a lot of love in, others will love it too, and you’ll be surprised who turns up to play your game.

Then, once you’ve got your concept, you can do market research and ask the gals in your life what appeals to them in the games they like. What seems to be the case a lot of the time is that appealing character personalities and interactions help draw them in, but that’s not the only thing. (If you’re making online multiplayer, a big part of it will also be the ability to report people for being toxic, because, you know, assholes will tend to target the woman in their lobby.)


Yeah.. Well I am a beginner in game development and want some suggestions. But I know what you mean.


Maybe I should create something new and focus on my ideas. Then check what can be done with ideas from the outside.


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 13:29:45


At 1/2/24 01:16 PM, wxr wrote:
At 1/2/24 11:12 AM, Thetageist wrote: You’re approaching this with the wrong philosophy.

If there are games “for girls”, there must be games “for boys”, which would mean there are games girls “shouldn’t play”. If you ask women what they like to play, their answers are going to vary really wildly, and include some games that are normally marketed to guys! And this applies to games normally marketed to girls, too: I could see your idea for a hentai game with male characters being really appealing to queer men as well!

Make the game you want to make, not what you think is going to attract hot singles to your area. If you put a lot of love in, others will love it too, and you’ll be surprised who turns up to play your game.

Then, once you’ve got your concept, you can do market research and ask the gals in your life what appeals to them in the games they like. What seems to be the case a lot of the time is that appealing character personalities and interactions help draw them in, but that’s not the only thing. (If you’re making online multiplayer, a big part of it will also be the ability to report people for being toxic, because, you know, assholes will tend to target the woman in their lobby.)
That’s a dumb idea


Perhaps this can be a learning experience - explain why you think so?


Someone please help me revive my clubs

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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 15:53:19


M'kay. Just hear me out on this one.

So it's like, an oldschool, arcady rail-shooter. Or a little bit more simple like this ol' game right here:


But you're in the POV of the girlie, and instead of shootin' up cats like in the example I poasted above, you toss a bunch of dishes and furniture and shizzle to the boyfriend you just broke up with, who pops up and down all over the screen.


I'll take 5% of the proffits in royalties, tyvm.

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 16:05:14


At 1/2/24 03:53 PM, Guidodinho wrote: M'kay. Just hear me out on this one.
So it's like, an oldschool, arcady rail-shooter. Or a little bit more simple like this ol' game right here:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/476742

But you're in the POV of the girlie, and instead of shootin' up cats like in the example I poasted above, you toss a bunch of dishes and furniture and shizzle to the boyfriend you just broke up with, who pops up and down all over the screen.

I'll take 5% of the proffits in royalties, tyvm.


Yeah if I make it.


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 19:02:46


Well, maybe I WANNA play your undressing game "made for ladies"! Did you ever think about that? HMM?! iu_1139979_9692889.webp

P.S. This is a joke; don't worry


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I do the haha funni voic, and make the vidyo gay muzik, I also write okay... I think?

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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 19:10:29


At 1/2/24 07:02 PM, Jojo wrote: Well, maybe I WANNA play your undressing game "made for ladies"! Did you ever think about that? HMM?!
P.S. This is a joke; don't worry


Hehehehe. My point about the meaninglessness of gendered labels on games has officially been proven.


Someone please help me revive my clubs

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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-02 19:18:10


At 1/2/24 07:10 PM, Thetageist wrote:
At 1/2/24 07:02 PM, Jojo wrote: Well, maybe I WANNA play your undressing game "made for ladies"! Did you ever think about that? HMM?!
P.S. This is a joke; don't worry
Hehehehe. My point about the meaninglessness of gendered labels on games has officially been proven.


Are you implying that I 100%'d Barbie Horse Adventures for the Gameboy Advance while jamming out to the Aphex Twin background music? Cause you would be absolutely correct.iu_1139995_9692889.webp


Schizo Autist with bonus ADHD


I do the haha funni voic, and make the vidyo gay muzik, I also write okay... I think?

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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 00:17:42


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Or that's what I WOULD be saying until I saw the art was ok, just not detailed enough.

while "Otome" is a good category, it's also a large genre. It might be better to not only "take after" a specific company's output, but use their tools, too!


there's a tool called Renpy specifically designed for games like this, and you might want to look up the company Hanako Games as a place to start, beginning with Cute Knight as a base. It will probably be easier to use that first and then port it to flash or whatever we use these days, than start immediately in flash itself

Cute Knight also has even today a little seen innovation where you DON'T have to hook up if you don't want to. There are like 4 dozen possible endings, and you can marry a stereotypical gallant prince, become a "warrior princess" yourself and snag the little innkeeper boy as a house husband, or just give up on love and become the local Crazy Cat Lady!

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Western media has descended to the level of Soviet media, pre-Glasnost, except the American people largely still drink from that poisoned well, thinking it provides "news."

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 02:17:54


At 1/3/24 12:17 AM, OpusFreiling wrote:
Or that's what I WOULD be saying until I saw the art was ok, just not detailed enough.
while "Otome" is a good category, it's also a large genre. It might be better to not only "take after" a specific company's output, but use their tools, too!

there's a tool called Renpy specifically designed for games like this, and you might want to look up the company Hanako Games as a place to start, beginning with Cute Knight as a base. It will probably be easier to use that first and then port it to flash or whatever we use these days, than start immediately in flash itself
Cute Knight also has even today a little seen innovation where you DON'T have to hook up if you don't want to. There are like 4 dozen possible endings, and you can marry a stereotypical gallant prince, become a "warrior princess" yourself and snag the little innkeeper boy as a house husband, or just give up on love and become the local Crazy Cat Lady!


Interesting, thanks.


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 09:06:14


You know that women are just people, right? They're not some alien race with unwordly tastes in media


the high roller is my favorite they/them lesbian

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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 11:27:26


At 1/3/24 09:06 AM, Scootakip wrote: You know that women are just people, right? They're not some alien race with unwordly tastes in media


Sitcoms, kpop, and fabulous theatre would disagree

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 12:58:46


At 1/3/24 11:27 AM, NIFYX wrote:
At 1/3/24 09:06 AM, Scootakip wrote: You know that women are just people, right? They're not some alien race with unwordly tastes in media
Sitcoms, kpop, and fabulous theatre would disagree

Nope.


What the world needs now is a Seinfeld HTML game to unify everybody.


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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 13:02:10


At 1/3/24 12:58 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1/3/24 11:27 AM, NIFYX wrote:
At 1/3/24 09:06 AM, Scootakip wrote: You know that women are just people, right? They're not some alien race with unwordly tastes in media
Sitcoms, kpop, and fabulous theatre would disagree
Nope.

What the world needs now is a Seinfeld HTML game to unify everybody.


Can you stop shiposting here, this is not your playground.. Please.


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 13:20:47


At 1/3/24 01:02 PM, ZombieGhost wrote: Can you stop shiposting here, this is not your playground.. Please.

If you want a serious opinion, you’re better off creating a game that you want to develop than attempting to cater for an entire gender. Mainly because you’d be driven to fulfil your ideas.


The other impression is I think trying to target an audience that you are not a member of, or have little interaction with, is going to backfire.


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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 13:22:26


At 1/3/24 01:20 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1/3/24 01:02 PM, ZombieGhost wrote: Can you stop shiposting here, this is not your playground.. Please.
If you want a serious opinion, you’re better off creating a game that you want to develop than attempting to cater for an entire gender. Mainly because you’d be driven to fulfil your ideas.

The other impression is I think trying to target an audience that you are not a member of, or have little interaction with, is going to backfire.


Backfire, interesting.. Can you elaborate your thoughs more?


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 13:29:30


At 1/3/24 01:22 PM, ZombieGhost wrote:
The other impression is I think trying to target an audience that you are not a member of, or have little interaction with, is going to backfire.
Backfire, interesting.. Can you elaborate your thoughs more?

🌸 🌺 You’ll produce something that is rubbish. 🌺 🌸


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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 13:40:08


At 1/3/24 01:29 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1/3/24 01:22 PM, ZombieGhost wrote:
The other impression is I think trying to target an audience that you are not a member of, or have little interaction with, is going to backfire.
Backfire, interesting.. Can you elaborate your thoughs more?
🌸 🌺 You’ll produce something that is rubbish. 🌺 🌸


You sure underestimate people you don't know about.


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 14:46:01


At 1/3/24 12:58 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1/3/24 11:27 AM, NIFYX wrote:
At 1/3/24 09:06 AM, Scootakip wrote: You know that women are just people, right? They're not some alien race with unwordly tastes in media
Sitcoms, kpop, and fabulous theatre would disagree
Nope.

What the world needs now is a Seinfeld HTML game to unify everybody.

Seinfeld sucks, where the hell is the Sexman GAME?!

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 15:24:33


Alright, people here doesn't seem to be kind at all or even trying to give helpful suggestions. So I gave up to be open minded..


I will do it myself and check stuff that are helpful.


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 16:54:05


At 12/29/23 08:58 PM, ZombieGhost wrote: Hey,

I am thinking about making some short games for ladies.
It will be rated M or A depending on what you prefer
and which thing you like.

I have little experiences in game making, but yeah.

I am good at drawing both genders.
But since it's a game for ladies.
I though maybe a undress game with different males characters.
Or maybe something more like a woman discover a 18+ magazine
made for here.

And what else..

Maybe a dating sim game?

But I am not really in depth with the development part of this..
So yeah. Something very simple and naughty for the ladies.

I will try to make decent drawings for that matter.

Here is what I can draw.

You are all free to give me ideas and hope I will be able to reach your expectations.

Thank you, ZG.


I think enough people in this thread have told you to reevaluate your actions than actually helping, lol. Not that they are wrong. Just be sure you know if it is really what you want to do.


First off, you are unlikely to gain much useful information, at least regarding data for adult games for females on this forum. Sure the accounts are are pseudonymous, but people aren't very likely to self admit what kind of adult games they prefer. Actually, I just tried looking up insights and statistics, but there sparse any about what adult games female do well. Actually stats about adult games in general are sparse. You could probably get a general guess by looking up insights, on what games females prefer, what are popular adult game categories, what are popular adult categories with woman. Again this isn't all encompassing, but in theory will be better than groping in the dark when making a game not for yourself.


Like other's suggested, in general for making games as a new person into game development, I would suggest Ren'Py, at least since that is a pretty popular way to make visual novels (which a lot of adult games nowadays use). You can also consider GDvelop, which is a visual programming based game engine (that is free and open source), or if you want something more closer to a full game engine, Godot (another free and open source game engine).


Also since you are new to programming, I would suggest a small of project as possible, and not worry to much about the quality, but more about finishing the entirety of the project, start to finish. I'd just make a short visual novel with maybe 2 or three different endings, or maybe dress up game. Learn how the whole process works, then try to expand and try something a bit more elaborate. Just like when learning drawing you start with simple shapes, then you learn how to make more and more complex shapes with the basics.


I could maybe discuss more in a DM if you want, but I am not really experienced in game development, just have made a couple of small games as a hobby.

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 17:02:54


At 1/3/24 04:54 PM, Degernated-Code wrote:
At 12/29/23 08:58 PM, ZombieGhost wrote: Hey,

I am thinking about making some short games for ladies.
It will be rated M or A depending on what you prefer
and which thing you like.

I have little experiences in game making, but yeah.

I am good at drawing both genders.
But since it's a game for ladies.
I though maybe a undress game with different males characters.
Or maybe something more like a woman discover a 18+ magazine
made for here.

And what else..

Maybe a dating sim game?

But I am not really in depth with the development part of this..
So yeah. Something very simple and naughty for the ladies.

I will try to make decent drawings for that matter.

Here is what I can draw.

You are all free to give me ideas and hope I will be able to reach your expectations.

Thank you, ZG.
I think enough people in this thread have told you to reevaluate your actions than actually helping, lol. Not that they are wrong. Just be sure you know if it is really what you want to do.

First off, you are unlikely to gain much useful information, at least regarding data for adult games for females on this forum. Sure the accounts are are pseudonymous, but people aren't very likely to self admit what kind of adult games they prefer. Actually, I just tried looking up insights and statistics, but there sparse any about what adult games female do well. Actually stats about adult games in general are sparse. You could probably get a general guess by looking up insights, on what games females prefer, what are popular adult game categories, what are popular adult categories with woman. Again this isn't all encompassing, but in theory will be better than groping in the dark when making a game not for yourself.

Like other's suggested, in general for making games as a new person into game development, I would suggest Ren'Py, at least since that is a pretty popular way to make visual novels (which a lot of adult games nowadays use). You can also consider GDvelop, which is a visual programming based game engine (that is free and open source), or if you want something more closer to a full game engine, Godot (another free and open source game engine).

Also since you are new to programming, I would suggest a small of project as possible, and not worry to much about the quality, but more about finishing the entirety of the project, start to finish. I'd just make a short visual novel with maybe 2 or three different endings, or maybe dress up game. Learn how the whole process works, then try to expand and try something a bit more elaborate. Just like when learning drawing you start with simple shapes, then you learn how to make more and more complex shapes with the basics.

I could maybe discuss more in a DM if you want, but I am not really experienced in game development, just have made a couple of small games as a hobby.


Well thanks, I would appreciate to discuss this more in DMs.


ZombieGhost


Some of the replies in this thread are proof that everyone is a fuckin' game development expert when they want to clown on somebody for the sake of...what? memes? being edgy/toxic/etc.? showing how "funny" you are? Take that shit to General, oh wait, it got shut down, womp womp. Go get mommy's credit card and shitpost in the Supporter Party forum if you really want to.


As others have said, asking how to make a game "for women" is probably asking the wrong question. It's kinda like asking "how do I make a popular game" because it's very vague -- there's several factors that contribute to a game having a particular demographic, and I don't think anybody really fully knows them either. Hell, I don't think anyone could've predicted that Friday Night Funkin' would be popular amongst kids - not even teens, mind you, kids - and it's probably easier to see in hindsight? But hindsight is just that, 20/20. In the moment, you can't say that your game will attract a given audience even if you attempt to target them.


That being said, it's not impossible to create a game that is geared towards women...but I'd be hesitant of the effectiveness of whatever strategies are used to do so. It's far easier to decide what type of game you want to make and then decide what you can do to market it to women more effectively. Societal and several other factors shape the end result, and as a result it's far more difficult -- but not impossible -- to make some games easier for women to play, even if you can't market them outright.


But if you want a "good chance" of targeting a primarily female audience, then you can look at Quantic Foundry's analyses on this topic for more information.


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Granted that otome games are one suggestion that have been mentioned -- and it makes sense, given the success of erotic novellas like 50 Shades of Grey -- but making one doesn't guarantee a female audience for the same reason that adding a "female" character option in a game doesn't mean that only women will choose it (with probably far more men doing so instead).


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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 17:47:06


At 1/3/24 05:41 PM, Gimmick wrote: Some of the replies in this thread are proof that everyone is a fuckin' game development expert when they want to clown on somebody for the sake of...what? memes? being edgy/toxic/etc.? showing how "funny" you are? Take that shit to General, oh wait, it got shut down, womp womp. Go get mommy's credit card and shitpost in the Supporter Party forum if you really want to.

As others have said, asking how to make a game "for women" is probably asking the wrong question. It's kinda like asking "how do I make a popular game" because it's very vague -- there's several factors that contribute to a game having a particular demographic, and I don't think anybody really fully knows them either. Hell, I don't think anyone could've predicted that Friday Night Funkin' would be popular amongst kids - not even teens, mind you, kids - and it's probably easier to see in hindsight? But hindsight is just that, 20/20. In the moment, you can't say that your game will attract a given audience even if you attempt to target them.

That being said, it's not impossible to create a game that is geared towards women...but I'd be hesitant of the effectiveness of whatever strategies are used to do so. It's far easier to decide what type of game you want to make and then decide what you can do to market it to women more effectively. Societal and several other factors shape the end result, and as a result it's far more difficult -- but not impossible -- to make some games easier for women to play, even if you can't market them outright.

But if you want a "good chance" of targeting a primarily female audience, then you can look at Quantic Foundry's analyses on this topic for more information.

Granted that otome games are one suggestion that have been mentioned -- and it makes sense, given the success of erotic novellas like 50 Shades of Grey -- but making one doesn't guarantee a female audience for the same reason that adding a "female" character option in a game doesn't mean that only women will choose it (with probably far more men doing so instead).


Thank you for your analytic observation.


ZombieGhost


As long as it has naked/half naked men I'll happily play it


QBD

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Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 22:07:33


At 1/3/24 09:45 PM, QueenBlackDiva wrote: As long as it has naked/half naked men I'll happily play it


Good! Any suggestion to which kind of men could be added


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-03 22:41:29


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Henry Garryson


ZombieGhost

Response to Suggestions to make games for ladies. 2024-01-04 08:02:23


Draw emotionally distraught twinks and have them make out


Click for context

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