10,833 Forum Posts by "TurkeyOnAStick"
At 1/5/24 05:25 PM, Thundorboltz wrote:At 1/5/24 02:13 PM, Dreggsu wrote:?At 12/22/23 02:35 PM, Thundorboltz wrote:Although sometimes if you incorrectly flag something, a moderator will message you:At 12/22/23 02:34 PM, Pingu wrote:Ok thnx.At 12/22/23 02:09 PM, Thundorboltz wrote: How long does it take for you to know if you correctly flagged something?There's no real timeline. People who correctly flag things more often will see it go faster, but there is no notification or anything.
If you flag something incorrectly and it’s an easy/common mistake A GRUMPY MOD MIGHT PAY YOU A VISIT.
(In that case it was clarifying why a collection was correctly M rated; sometimes it’s easier to explain why something is acceptable rather than get multiple incorrect flags from users chasing golden whistles)
At 1/4/24 08:03 AM, VanVeleca wrote:At 1/3/24 12:58 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:Seinfeld was never goodAt 1/3/24 11:27 AM, NIFYX wrote:Nope.At 1/3/24 09:06 AM, Scootakip wrote: You know that women are just people, right? They're not some alien race with unwordly tastes in mediaSitcoms, kpop, and fabulous theatre would disagree
What the world needs now is a Seinfeld HTML game to unify everybody.
Okey-dokey, and you’re listed as female on your profile.
So individuals have individual tastes independent of gender, unsurprisingly.
At 1/3/24 01:22 PM, ZombieGhost wrote:The other impression is I think trying to target an audience that you are not a member of, or have little interaction with, is going to backfire.Backfire, interesting.. Can you elaborate your thoughs more?
🌸 🌺 You’ll produce something that is rubbish. 🌺 🌸
At 1/3/24 01:02 PM, ZombieGhost wrote: Can you stop shiposting here, this is not your playground.. Please.
If you want a serious opinion, you’re better off creating a game that you want to develop than attempting to cater for an entire gender. Mainly because you’d be driven to fulfil your ideas.
The other impression is I think trying to target an audience that you are not a member of, or have little interaction with, is going to backfire.
At 1/3/24 11:27 AM, NIFYX wrote:At 1/3/24 09:06 AM, Scootakip wrote: You know that women are just people, right? They're not some alien race with unwordly tastes in mediaSitcoms, kpop, and fabulous theatre would disagree
Nope.
What the world needs now is a Seinfeld HTML game to unify everybody.
At 1/1/24 03:27 PM, SporgyTheMenace wrote: So Steamboat Willie is now public domain, what are you gonna do with it bros?
There’s an existing thread about this in the Animation forum.
https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1530757
I hope people in this forum draw something.
I'm gonna turn the specific version of Micky that appears in the cartoon into some Lovecraftian thingy, slap it on a T-shirt and sell it at my local flea market.
I think some advice on what has changed with the copyright law would help as I don’t think this has stopped people from doing designs based on the character before the turn of the new year. Here’s a literal t-shirt design from 9 years ago.
At 12/28/23 06:16 AM, callmeNattHS wrote: yea the title auto explains. so i scouted someone without verifying much (yes i know its my error) and i have seen some pretty questionable things about the tags and what the person posts that could pretty much remove my scout (that i got like a week ago?) and now im fearing for any chance that i may have of appearing on the art portal even with my horrible art because i dont post anything that i make serious and no improvement :D
Hi - I’ve unscouted them and your scout is intact.
Why do people write yards of text about porn, yet giving feedback to others is like squeezing blood from a stone?
I’ve reset the tree so the OP can be scouted.
Overall I like their style like the pics linked below, but if I had a guess about why they were pruned I think most of the content in the image is evident from the thumbnail alone. While it would be unfair to call these sketches, there’s not much depth to the characters.
I think it would be beneficial if these were collected together as a series, or the drawings had more dynamic poses or content that gives the character personality.
Just browse the forum - we don’t need a gallery thread when the site has an art portal.
At 12/6/23 01:44 AM, auserID123 wrote: I could click on "animated" and only see animated arts in advanced search of arts.
but i don't see advanced search in there anymore.
It’s still there, but you have to hit the cog once you’ve run an initial search to get the advanced search options up.
At 11/30/23 01:56 PM, Dipsheet wrote: Here's my project feed, the 2nd piece is the missing one
I can see it.
Given it’s an Adult pic, have you got the Adult filter switched off?
At 11/30/23 12:16 PM, TSimba wrote: Hello. I'm a 2d artist here about 4 years and I still not get scouted. I get many requests for animations and earn money from other sites but here newgrounds still thinks I'm a newbie. Do I get some sort of shadow ban or just unluck?
You’re able to be scouted.
At 11/27/23 04:13 PM, Thetageist wrote:At 11/27/23 03:34 PM, Thetageist wrote:Turkey didn’t actually do anything but say “just ignore him” despite the obvious derailing of the thread which breaks forum rules. Next moderator I know is @SourCherryJack.At 11/27/23 01:21 PM, nightsavior wrote: -I'm not a supporter of gender reassignment but I also will not have a beef with a trans person directly unless they start posting stupid hateful inflammatory garbage my way.You probably should've ended the post here, on the point of "even I wouldn't have harassed Gooseworx". The Politics Forum was shut down for a reason, and the moderators are not looking for threads in the remaining forums to turn into ideological debates.
I should probably try to ping another mod to come prune the thread. @TurkeyOnAStick, are you there?
We’re not playing the “find a mod who willl enact my demands” game, champ.
At 11/27/23 03:34 PM, Thetageist wrote:At 11/27/23 01:21 PM, nightsavior wrote: -I'm not a supporter of gender reassignment but I also will not have a beef with a trans person directly unless they start posting stupid hateful inflammatory garbage my way.You probably should've ended the post here, on the point of "even I wouldn't have harassed Gooseworx". The Politics Forum was shut down for a reason, and the moderators are not looking for threads in the remaining forums to turn into ideological debates.
I should probably try to ping another mod to come prune the thread. @TurkeyOnAStick, are you there?
Oh, nightsavior’s a clown from the Politics forum. Yeah, don’t engage.
At 11/26/23 12:28 PM, EmsDeLaRoZ wrote: I accidentally confussed a reply in this thread, and I wanted to delete my own reply, but doens't seem that's possible. Is there anyway to delete it, or will I have to deal with the consequences of my error?
I’m not touching that post as it will jump from T to V, which is worse.
It’s just a forum game; redeem yourself in future posts.
At 11/25/23 11:48 PM, Quirkz wrote: From what I can interpret, putting new topics in the art forum to draw peoples OCs is allowed, the sticky OC Plaza is an option not a mandatory thing, which makes sence to me at least as they serve slightly different purpose of random open fun vs choosing who you want to use your OC.
But backseat moderation is banned, and whenever these posts start they get "you shouldn't be doing this" or "a mod is coming to shut this down soon" type comments. Often refering to some, I think, unwritten rule about needing a hook or twist to be allowed.
Can someone clarify the mod position on this.
OC threads in the art forum are both loved and loathed by the community:
-Some people see it as a way to engage with others and otherwise get out of an artist’s block, and other people get to see their art in a new style …
-…While oftentimes the OP fails to deliver, and the thread becomes yet another OC graveyard featuring the same OCs over and over …
We would prefer people to use the OC Marketplace so
A) artists don’t set themselves up to fail with mammoth tasks, and instead only draw OCs that inspire them.
B) avoids dead OC request threads.
However, there are times when an artist is able to pump out request-after-request, which is perfectly welcomed.
This is why “No OC threads” is a soft rule, and mostly they would be watched to see whether they get a healthy level of art activity from the creator.
… that’s my stance at this moment in time, anyway. That may change if 95% of request threads become either hubs of artistic activity or dead threads. Likewise @SourJackChumblyBum (or whatever Jack’s name is now) may have a different take.
Why’s this thread keep getting replies? It’s been answered.
I think there’s only so many ways to say “block ‘em and move on”.
I reckon the OP now knows how to handle the haters of “lolisho”.
At 11/22/23 11:04 AM, VanVeleca wrote: As for the underage characters (which no, does not count as "child p*rn") generally […] it's fine […] by stating the character is supposed to be portrayed as 18 or older.
Absolutely not true - it’s based on the content of the image only.
Drawing an explicit picture of a child character then claiming they’re 18+:
a) doesn’t work as a reason, and
b) it’s a dumb way of smart-arsing around the rule, increasing the chances the moderator will remove your pic.
At 11/21/23 07:51 PM, ThylaTank wrote: Underage fetish art is what I'd define as a fetishy looking picture featuring a character that's underage.
To determine if a character's underage, I'd usually decide on canon age(as I mentioned, Luz Noceda from the Owl House is 14 years old), and how the character looks(many animes feature a toddler-looking character that's apparently an immortal shapeshifting princess or whatever)
To determine if a work's fetish art, I'd look at the drawing itself/its description(anything drawn or described in a suggestive way? such as pleasured expressions, provocative dialogue, and prominent boobs/butts/bulges/etc), the artist's gallery(do lots of works of similar nature get posted by the same artist? If so, it might be a fetish. But then again, paleoartists might have a dinosaur fetish if the same logic was applied, so that's not a good rule.), and the tags( such as "fatgirls", "vorarephilia", "fartfetish", etc).
When I said that the fetish art was improperly rated, I meant that the drawing clearly appears to be fetish art, yet isn't properly rated as such.
I'll DM you some offenders of the top sentence soon enough.
(I was also kind of asking about badly-rated and underage porn separately, as I have yet to encounter a piece that's both improperly rated and underage on this website. Sorry for the confusion)
I had a look at what you posted in the PM (thanks for the links, that was helpful). From what I understand I think there are two issues that I would like to handle separately.
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Fetish Art
The two images you passed were of a bloated character and someone burping.
I totally agree about how they were drawn and their tags (“fetish”, “big thighs”, “muscular female”) that they would be fetish art.
I’d be inclined to push some of them up to “teen” rating as there is a somewhat adult theme to these.
However content like this is not as problematic as ones that show explicit sex or nudity.
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Art featuring Minors
I think the examples you provided were mostly to show fetish content, as they don’t look like children to me.
The DeviantArt example doesn’t make sense to me either, as it’s just three fatties to me.
I think a lot of this comes down to background knowledge that the characters depicted are underage. I have no clue who Luz Noceda or what Owl House is, so when I look at some of the images in the art portal I think it’s passable.
We would evaluate the picture at face value - has this character been drawn child-like features or proportions, such as a massive head and short limbs. The age from the original source material is not a factor.
The argument for retention if a child character is considered to be presented as an adult is easier to grasp if you consider the inverse:
If there was an adult character (E.g. Marge Simpson) who was drawn as a child having sex, it would be removed.
At 11/20/23 10:03 PM, ThylaTank wrote:At 11/20/23 09:46 PM, MoonwalkingZear wrote: Have you ever reported the uploads?I have reported a few of the underage fetish ones, and the E and T ones
Can you PM me ones that you think are “underage fetish”?
I’d rather have an actual picture as a frame of reference to what you’re broadly describing; for all I know something described as “under-age E-T rated fetish art!” is simply a SFW pic containing a child character.
At 11/17/23 09:25 PM, IgwanaSuchus wrote: around may 2022 i got scouted to the art portal
Yeah, it looks like you got pruned shortly afterwards - looking through your submissions it was mainly sketches.
I’ve reset your tree as IMO I think your current stuff is fine and definitely improving,
At 11/15/23 03:56 PM, VanVeleca wrote:At 11/15/23 03:50 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:Did you even read the starting post...? Because it seems like you just skimmed over itAt 11/15/23 03:46 PM, VanVeleca wrote:Jeez, so not only are you not reporting supposedly rule-breaking artwork,At 11/15/23 03:43 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:Oh, I thought that one was for actual pedophilia and not cartoons...At 11/15/23 03:41 PM, VanVeleca wrote:Good grief, I doubt you’ve even clicked on the little flag symbol at the corner of the picture.At 11/15/23 03:39 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:???At 11/15/23 03:30 PM, VanVeleca wrote: but I have seen many works that directly go against this rule.If you’ve seen many rule-breaking works, it’s great that you’ve been reporting th-
… oh.
Which report would apply?
If you want to proof for my claims you can check my "Faves" and filter it to Adult only
you’re favouriting it?
I’m not going to look through your favourites and try to figure out which ones you have a problem with
(yet simultaneously not have a problem with).
I don't have a problem with the content as I do not care about pixels, I have a problem with the flimsy rule that is often ignored. Some posts that go against the Age Guidelines even get popular and hit somewhere between 3 ~ 5 stars
So is it allowed to be posted or not?
Since you don't want to verify I hope you can trust my statements at least
It’s a rule that it’s not allowed.
If you think a rule is not being followed, report it.
I’ve got no frame of reference to check what you think is rule-breaking or not, and looking through your faves is like trying to look through a porn haystack.
At 11/15/23 03:46 PM, VanVeleca wrote:At 11/15/23 03:43 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:Oh, I thought that one was for actual pedophilia and not cartoons...At 11/15/23 03:41 PM, VanVeleca wrote:Good grief, I doubt you’ve even clicked on the little flag symbol at the corner of the picture.At 11/15/23 03:39 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:???At 11/15/23 03:30 PM, VanVeleca wrote: but I have seen many works that directly go against this rule.If you’ve seen many rule-breaking works, it’s great that you’ve been reporting th-
… oh.
Which report would apply?
If you want to proof for my claims you can check my "Faves" and filter it to Adult only
Jeez, so not only are you not reporting supposedly rule-breaking artwork,
you’re favouriting it?
I’m not going to look through your favourites and try to figure out which ones you have a problem with
(yet simultaneously not have a problem with).
At 11/15/23 03:41 PM, VanVeleca wrote:At 11/15/23 03:39 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:???At 11/15/23 03:30 PM, VanVeleca wrote: but I have seen many works that directly go against this rule.If you’ve seen many rule-breaking works, it’s great that you’ve been reporting th-
… oh.
Which report would apply?
Good grief, I doubt you’ve even clicked on the little flag symbol at the corner of the picture.
At 11/15/23 03:30 PM, VanVeleca wrote: but I have seen many works that directly go against this rule.
If you’ve seen many rule-breaking works, it’s great that you’ve been reporting th-
… oh.
Given that there is limited ways to browse available posters, I would not be surprised if the website and other similar sites only scrapes the images once you type your username into the search bar.
At 11/14/23 05:54 PM, lucifertan wrote:At 11/14/23 03:13 PM, SourCherryJack wrote:Here is where i think it relates to the original topic with how newgrounds expects you to rate content. nudity is classified as adult content here, be it showing genitalia or not. there is a clear distinction between nudity and pornography for a substantial amount of people that these kind of wrong rating incidents keep happening. maybe i am mistaken but wouldnt dragonball(those first few chapters) be an adult rated content on newgrounds if it were to go by those rules? of course i agree if the main story is very sexual or violent then one should rate the whole project accordingly and not based on the lowest rating they have on the individual pages.At 11/14/23 09:02 AM, lucifertan wrote: sorry i know you are just speaking from a user perspective but i have to disagree that having an adult piece in a series means the whole series must be classified as adult. like what alsoknownas1 said why then does the per-image rating exists at all. specifically i think violence are not suitable for minors too that's why it is classified as mature. if someone were to turn off the mature rating because of abhorrence of violence and then went on to read a series with T rating but have M rated pages, shouldn't your reasoning apply for them too as they also would have like to have known in advance that the series has violent imagery?I think the project as a whole should take the rating of the highest rated piece in the bunch, whether that’s A M T or E. But I can make concessions for a predominantly E series having moments of T or edging into M. But Adult is generally shorthand for pornography or sexual encounters, or extreme extreme violence which under general US centric views tends to be more taboo. Keep in mind I have been talking about a ‘series’ specifically in terms of a narrative not anything else.
For minor variants in designs such as clothing changes dress ups/dress downs where one post is of a character and another is the same character/same pose/same drawing etc but with their tits out, that would make an amount more sense to rate it the initial project since they’re individual posts not expected to be seen together necessarily.
Again, none of this is how I enforce this as a mod, I am just talking here.
… Note that for this thread the artist is submitting comics where an imp is molesting a woman and some step-sister porn.
Regardless of scenarios where nudity could be considered non-sexual, it is blatantly not the case here.
At 11/14/23 03:13 PM, SourCherryJack wrote: Again, none of this is how I enforce this as a mod, I am just talking here.
Just to bottom out this tangent, when the multi-image content ratings were rolled out it was stated:
“Your project has a project-level content rating and the option to set the content rating on individual pieces of art. Currently, our hubs and search features will only refer to the project rating, so you will want to rate your project based on the intended audience. Here are some example scenarios:
“Example 1: You have uploaded a comic with ten panels. Eight of these panels are rated T but two of them are rated A. Because the A-rated content is necessary to the story, you should rate your project A.
“Example 2: You have uploaded a series of variants of your OC in different outfits. Most of these variants are rated E but you have one that is rated A. You could choose to rate your project E and people will find it while browsing E, or you could rate it A and people will find it while browsing A. If someone browsing E views your project, the A-rated portion will be filtered if they don’t have A-rated content enabled. In the future it’s possible your project could show up in both E and A results but that will require a larger re-architecture on our end.”
I.e. I’m sure everybody is right and in practise it’s fine.
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However, I would seriously suggest this long-winded tangent is closed off as (as already recognised) it is not the case here - all of the OP pics are individually submitted - and the more we posts yards of text about this the more the original issue is confused.
