You closed your own appeal, and have since promised to ban evade if it didn't go your way. Not a great look.

If I remove that message would that be ok? I see a message on TangerMusic's page that says the same thing so I thought it was allowed?

Nope. Thanks for bringing it up though.

np

What Pingu is saying is removing the message won't mean your ban will go away, and it is highly advisable you don't make a new account (ban evasion). We've had lots of people do that in the past and it leads to their accounts being deleted for doing it over and over while spamming uploads. One ban isn't going to ruin your whole acc. Just wait it out and come back with music you actually composed.

EDIT: Wow I wrote a lot of these paragraphs for nothing but I'm going to leave it here because I did see TangerMusic's newspost in this thread. Sorry for wasting your time! If you see anyone swapping acapellas on NG and calling it theirs, feel free to save this somewhere for a copypasta.

I want to clarify that to date music with AI tools is not banned so long as YOU are the author of the musical elements, not the AI or someone else, and you follow all the other Audio Portal Guidelines.

Let me explain the caveats, since I make music with AI voice myself.

The key if you want to use your cool AI toys is to do it like me. I actually sing the underlying vocal tracks, or otherwise have written them myself. You may think that defeats the purpose of using AI voice changers, but it's this distinction that legally grants me intellectual property rights and/or the legal right to call it a cover song. It also means like a traditional cover song that the result isn't just a carbon copy of the original vocal, and I can do cool stuff like translate the song into an alternate language (like Russian) and sound like the original artist.

If you do a cover track, you must purchase a cover license to post it to NG or Spotify or whatever. You can't just upload a track and swap out the voice and call that a cover, because it's legally not.

You also can't use the instrumental on a AI voice cover track legally because it's someone else's property. Doing that requires a mechanical license, which is much more expensive and harder to get than the cover license. (My covers cost me 12 dollars a year -- if you want to know more, you can reach me here or Discord, same name)

As an aside, the reason you can't just swap acapellas or do a cover over a non-royalty-free instrumental is the reason NG can't host mashups -- nobody bothers to buy mechanical licenses for them; they're as hard to get as they are to afford, and I think they can also be revoked at any time.

So in short, if you use AI voice, that doesn't necessarily mean you will get banned. You have to follow other rules and make your own track, or completely remake the instrumental yourself (without breaking any other rules, which is really just the law at that point)

Hope that helps answer your questions.

I accidentally uploaded the refrence song for my bad burger remix. I had them named bad burger 1 and 2 and I uploaded 1 which is the reference track. Now to prove I actually made my own version I have it in a google drive link below.

"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XY_iQEaK5ErYPerj5yo2tysvNhP8lleM/view?usp=sharing" - MY VERSION

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XY_iQEaK5ErYPerj5yo2tysvNhP8lleM/view?usp=sharing" - HIS VERSION

Hey there its been 2 hours, you can wait a bit. Focus for this topic is people who may have been waiting a while

no disrespect to anyone here im just letting off a bit of steam.

"Be polite"

please clarify because i have lost it..

Removing and/or unpublishing an audio piece from my profile without further notice, no message, no DM, any reasoning for that matter..

is polite?

i am fully aware that this site has some rules set in stone but please don't make me laugh,

your sense of humor is far from perfect.

Oh I am really sorry. Please take your time and come back to me when you so choose

Tom pulled it down, probably for violating the cover/remix policy. Can contact him if you want more.

Who's tom and how can I msg him?

That message was for the other user, as I noted

My bad

thanks for mentioning..

but no one really answered me.

how is removing a piece polite without notification..

yet this thread mentioned something about being polite to one another.

im striving for equal communication. i understand why the piece is gone. im not mad about that..

communication is key but im guessing is really hard to manage which stings and makes me sad.

I understand that. I actually wrote up a thing answering someone else with a similar concern (link) which in very condensed form is: around 150-200 things per day get removed by mods/program, and asides from ban messages the time to give every person a custom written out reason why they had something removed (generally for something pretty clear in the rules), we'd never keep up. Judging by things yesterday and removing the automatic messages sent by M-Bot for bans it would work out to 4-5 hours of PM writing if each removal got a 5 minute write up.

Also in section V. part C of the ToS it says "Newgrounds reserves the right to remove Content and User Submissions without prior notice." Not the best outcome, but also doesn't mean we have to give a reason.

Messages are good and sometimes if I'm removing without banning I'll send the user a PM if the reason for the removal is a bit obscure (or if there's a recent change to rules). We've had instances where a company had once been pretty lenient with covers/remixes and then did a 180 overnight and started to crack down (lookin at you Hololive...)

About people being polite in the thread, it keeps people within the BBS rules and is a result of people being pissed off that the thing they stole and uploaded for a geometry dash level isn't working etc

Hopefully this answers your question about this at least. Probably not the answer you hoped for.

Im already happy someone like you is open and willing to explain.

i know very well i was in the wrong, which is the reason why i am not angry about the removal.

But, thanks for listening and explaining!

I still need help. My song is completely different from the suspect and i used only copyright-free loops from vengeance packs.

Hello, I was banned over a year ago for uploading a song and it got flagged because both songs used a similar drum break and I had closed the appeal by accident, Anything is a great help!

I have cleared your ban

thank you so much <33333

Hello, so when I try to upload my song on Wednesday, it got flagged by Newgrounds. It said it was similar to head tap by DSKII but it doesn’t sound anything like it and that doesn’t even exist anywhere. I’ve looked it up but it doesn’t exist, the artist does exist, but not on new grounds can you please return back on my audio publishing features and I’ll send you the song that I made. It did use a stock loop but I made sure that it was copyright free and it didn’t have any copyright on it. Here’s the link to the loop I used https://youtu.be/b871hwL9BtE?si=1BGiqtyoxi8qBEnC please get back to me I would really appreciate it.

-Saunders -

I've approved your appeal based on genre -- it is acceptable in hiphop to use loops and even others' beats in your songs, those that contain full track vocals, which you wrote. However, I've removed two of your other compositions for being entirely based on loops. As a general rule, it is okay to use loops which are royalty free, but they should not make up more than 50% of your entire song. Don't resubmit anything which has been removed. You can dispute the removal with me personally (they are not gone forever, just unpublished)

Hello! I've recently made a song which has lead to the ban of my account. I got a notification from P-Bot saying I may have infringed on the work "Lochgefängnis", by Aragemm, which I did not do or intend to do.

I'm writing to this thread as I accidentally deleted my appeal. I would like to ask you to look into my case and help me understand what caused the issue and if my account can be unbanned. I really want to continue making music for NG and would appreciate your assistance.

Thank you.